Why isn't this place 18+
6 months ago
The more I think about it the more it doesn't sit right with me.
Kids and teens shouldn't be on a website that has porn on it, even if it's under a filter. I'd never let my kid on to Fur Affinity and if most parents knew the website's contents I don't think they would either. I think this place is well passed divorcing its relationship with porn (and shouldn't have to!). It's very clear that that is the main draw. I know it's easy to circumvent an age filter, but it would turn the general consensus from "I guess it's ok that you're here." to "You are not allowed to be here.".
What is the appeal of keeping it all ages? I'd partially understand (but still wouldn't agree) if relations with payment processors and advertisers were of concern, but as far as I know none of that is happening. Unless there are plans to get something like that going in the future? Even then, I'm sure there are plenty of adult oriented services who don't already have ads on here who would love to. Or even something like community funding.
I dunno. Just feel like a lot of the issues that FA's been experiencing over the years would be lessened if the people running the joint just got real and slapped that 18+ sticker on. If I'm guaranteed dick and balls on your website's front page every time I log in then you're running a website for adults.
Kids and teens shouldn't be on a website that has porn on it, even if it's under a filter. I'd never let my kid on to Fur Affinity and if most parents knew the website's contents I don't think they would either. I think this place is well passed divorcing its relationship with porn (and shouldn't have to!). It's very clear that that is the main draw. I know it's easy to circumvent an age filter, but it would turn the general consensus from "I guess it's ok that you're here." to "You are not allowed to be here.".
What is the appeal of keeping it all ages? I'd partially understand (but still wouldn't agree) if relations with payment processors and advertisers were of concern, but as far as I know none of that is happening. Unless there are plans to get something like that going in the future? Even then, I'm sure there are plenty of adult oriented services who don't already have ads on here who would love to. Or even something like community funding.
I dunno. Just feel like a lot of the issues that FA's been experiencing over the years would be lessened if the people running the joint just got real and slapped that 18+ sticker on. If I'm guaranteed dick and balls on your website's front page every time I log in then you're running a website for adults.
It's definitely an 18+ website, yeah.
No way to find out how alternate histories would have played out, of course.
That said: How would an 18+ restriction be enforced? How many of us, when we were under 18, lied about our ages on the internet? Takes almost no effort to select a different year on a dropdown menu. Why would FA throw money into a pit of trying to restrict access when it can be circumvented by any child with a modicum of determination?
One fix might be to alter the front page when a user is not logged in. By default any artwork marked as NSFW is hidden until the user changes their account settings (section 4.2 of the Terms of Service), but that relies on the uploader properly marking their uploads (pfft, good luck with that, tons of people don't even bother to tag their creations) or community reports to a limited moderation team with limited assets. Altering the front page to be only a login form with no thumbnails or links to creations could mitigate unregistered users (who may or may not be under the age of majority) would prevent them from seeing NSFW art without logging in, but again we're back to the problem of "it's easy to lie about your age."
There's a few tools in Global Site Settings that can help prevent minors from seeing specifically your account's content: Disable Guest Access and the newly-released Disable Access to Minors.
All that to say: Good intent to keep kids safe, but it's very difficult (and thus expensive) to keep kids safe when they're acting in an unsafe manner on the other end of a computer.
If everyone tagged their work as they were meant to, kids and teens didn't interact with 18+ stuff, people weren't creepy, there wasn't such a huge gray area with what's considered NSFW, etc, I think a website like this could run alright. Sort of like a back room in a novelty shop or an adult section in a rental store (if they were still around haha), easily monitored by whoever's keeping shop.
Being online blurs the lines too much for me. I appreciate the tools that administration has put into place, but I think FA is a little too much Brunettes Gone Wild and not enough Lilo & Sitch DVDs for me to feel entirely comfortable sharing the space with people who are underaged. I know that I'd be anyways even if they did flip the 18+ switch, but it's more about sending a general "Hey, this isn't intended for you, please don't endanger yourself and the people here." message. It's frustrating that money always seems to be at the root of these issues, but that's the way she goes
Inflation for example is definitely a fetish, you go to the front page with NSFW turned off and there usually is fetish content.
like how many inflation episodes of kids tv shows are there ya know
If it's on deviantart or furaffinity, it's probably fetish related
its a website with a nsfw section, like how discord allows age-gated nsfw
Furaffinity is just one example of how badly the internet suffers from this.